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Poster: saintjames Date: Jan 24, 2008 8:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: new dead vinyl

anyone here order the vinyl releases from the dead site - american beauty or live dead ? really good stuff. The sound is much better than a cd.

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Poster: Jack Meoff Date: Jan 25, 2008 4:41am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: new dead vinyl

I when to a Jackie Green show and they were selling a LP at the T-shirt booth. Clear Green 180 gram Vinyl @ $20.00.

Killer for Scratchin'

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Poster: ghostofghostofrbnw Date: Jan 24, 2008 5:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: new dead vinyl

http://www.adelcom.net/MicroAcousticsCart1.htm for all you vinyl lovers this IS the cartridge you want....the sound quality far exceeds that of most any cd out there....

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Poster: Nothing Special Date: Jan 25, 2008 2:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: new dead vinyl

Edsel .. most things I say are silly.
As for iTunes, the music you rip from cd or download is converted to m4a which isn`t a problem on most equipment. It`s the music you buy from them that is unplayable on anything else. Don`t buy from the itunes store.
In my opinion (which is probably wrong), it`s best to rip and download all your music to flac which is lossless. That means it sounds exactly the same as the record or cd it came from. Then if you want to put a large collection on a portable player (you don`t need iTunes to use an iPod) you can create mp3s from your flac files preserving the originals.
Or just forget the whole bloody thing and stick the record on.

This post was modified by Nothing Special on 2008-01-25 10:11:22

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Poster: Nothing Special Date: Jan 24, 2008 12:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: new dead vinyl

No it`s not. I love vinyl! If something comes out on vinyl, I buy that format instead of cd. It kills me sometimes `cause sometimes you have to wait 3 or 4 weeks after the cd release(over here anyway).
BUT.... I`m not a vinyl snob, nothing sounds better on vinyl, that`s a lie. I digitise it all anyway. Play it once, into the pc,convert it and that`s it.
Digital music is the way forward (just remember, don`t use iTunes).
I`m not going to buy anything I have on cd again just `cause it comes out on vinyl. I just love records.

This post was modified by Nothing Special on 2008-01-24 20:56:44

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Poster: Edsel Date: Jan 24, 2008 1:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: new dead vinyl

Some things sound better on vinyl, some things don't.
To say that it's a lie that nothing on any vinyl album sounds better than any CD, is just silly.

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Jan 24, 2008 1:54pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: new dead vinyl

I have a tremendous amount of wax in my ears so it doesn't really matter. I also do not have a record player anymore so all the vinyl moldering in the garage won't get played anyway.

I avoid Itunes at all costs - the whole I thing is too cult-like for me.

How about WEtunes?

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jan 24, 2008 2:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: new dead vinyl

How do you separate the seeds and stems with a MP3 player?

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Jan 24, 2008 2:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: new dead vinyl

LOL . . . forgot about that important album cover feature, I guess you must resort to the frisbee!!

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Poster: craven714 Date: Jan 24, 2008 5:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: new dead vinyl

what I need to know is how to sort the
SHNs from the Flacs and the lossless

Its a riddle wrapped in an enigma, wrapped in a question
wrapped in bacon.

viva vinyl
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm bbbbbaccconnnnnnnnnnn

sorry if this repeats....."Times sure passin slow"

This post was modified by craven714 on 2008-01-25 01:02:59

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Poster: ghostofghostofrbnw Date: Jan 24, 2008 5:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: new dead vinyl

had to reread that one a couple times....excellent point!

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Jan 24, 2008 3:18pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: new dead vinyl

How good are your turntable and phono cartridge? The huge leap forward with CDs was that people can get good sound with relatively inexpensive equipment. For vinyl to sound better than CDs, you have to have good vinyl pressings, a high-quality turntable, and a phono cartridge costing at least hundreds of dollars. With a $2K phono cartridge, vinyl can sound f**king excellent. So I wouldn't dismiss vinyl as a category if you've only ever heard it on mid-fi equipment.

That said, I kind of doubt the new vinyl releases are all-analog. If the signal path has been digitized, then the only advantage over CDs would be bypassing the limitations of the D/A converter in one's CD player. With an HDCD decoder and a good D/A converter, one ought to be able to achieve more or less the same in the home that they did decoding the digital signal in their studio. But if you're listening to CDs on a mid-fi CD player, you're not getting the best out of the dead's stunning remasterings.

The future (as well as the present of course) is indeed digital, but certainly not 16-bit, 44kHz digital. I don't have a DVD audio or SACD player, but what I'd love to hear is the DVD audio release of American Beauty, which has 24-bit, 96kHz sound!

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Poster: mcgannahan Date: Jan 24, 2008 5:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: new dead vinyl

a nice tube amp wouldn't hurt either

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Poster: ghostofghostofrbnw Date: Jan 24, 2008 5:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: new dead vinyl

and to mention that each time a vinyl record is played there is a slight deterioration of the sound quality and a cd is the same everytime!

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Poster: ghostofghostofrbnw Date: Jan 24, 2008 4:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: new dead vinyl

no matter what cd player you use the sound quality is going to be the same,but the sound quality differs greatly depending on the quality of the cartridge you have on your turntable....the higher end stylus will give you a sound quality far exceeding that of cd where as the low end turntable with a cheap cartridge is gonna sound like shit...not only that but the low end cheap cartridge is gonna destroy your vinyl record...even with high end cartridges there is going to be a slight deterioration of the record every time it is played...the more you play the record the worse it is going to sound which is why in the long run a cd is way more practical....sound the same virtually everytime.

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Jan 24, 2008 8:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: new dead vinyl

I *love* the idea that playing vinyl reduces its quality. I have LPs that I've owned for decades and have played often enough that I have little desire to hear them again, and they still sound fine. Granted, I've always treated them respectfully, but it's not as though I had the greatest equipment back in college.

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Poster: daliguana Date: Jan 24, 2008 12:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: new dead vinyl

educate me on the iTunes issue - I use it exclusively for live music. Are you referring to ACC (or whatever format they have)? I only convert to mp3, so I can use the file in whatever media player I have - is that what you're referring to?